Curse

sixofone · Aug 08, 2008, 02:19 PM // 14:19

Whoa!! Lots of major reworks on skills!

I like it! It's good to see that Anet has abandoned their stance on a lot of sh*t, and are willing to go back to the drawing board and simply say: "Okay - we make this a totally new skill. The functionality is completely redone!"

Be interesting to see how the Hero AI behaves in actuality. (My Melonni has returned to Leeroy mode when set on aggressive.)

I like some of the Mesmer elite reworks. Lyssa's Aura and Tease in particular. And they added more AoE to the skills as well, which will help in the PvE environment.

Man - lots to absorb! And I need to go back and look at my heroes' bars as well. Some of the Ele changes are - whoa!

It's cool! Kind of like having bought a new campaign, with new skill sets!

I don't understand the OoU change (nerf?) nor the Mirror of Ice change. How does Mirror reflect anything? ::shrug:: Helps Water Ele's. just doesn't fit teh name of teh skill

Alexandra-Sweet · Aug 08, 2008, 02:25 PM // 14:25

[Ebon Vanguard Sniper Support] (with the bonus damage) + [intensity] against a lvl 8 Charr Axe Fiend that has [Frenzy] activated... I wonder how that looks like...

Yang Whirlwind · Aug 08, 2008, 02:27 PM // 14:27

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Originally Posted by JONO51

i guess you could still have perma ursan with: 5 R/Me ursans with 8+ expertise and arcane mimicry, 1 R/x with [[oath shot] others monks. then when ursans drop out of ursan (thus regaining attrib points) they mimic the oath shot, use it, everything is recharged and ursan is good to go. wouldnt that work? or am i missing something obvious?

And you don't think bringing a ranger without UB and equipped with a mostly useless Elite to DoA combined with the fact that you have to get 5 rangers makes things a bit more difficult?
You will only have 4 UB's btw, if you still plan on bringing the standard 3 monks and the ranger.

TheGuildWarsPenguin · Aug 08, 2008, 02:28 PM // 14:28

Stone Sheath Buff! Where Is It!

Esan · Aug 08, 2008, 02:29 PM // 14:29

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Originally Posted by Alexandra-Sweet

[Ebon Vanguard Sniper Support] (with the bonus damage) + [intensity] against a lvl 8 Charr Axe Fiend that has Frenzy activated...

EVSS deals physical damage, and Intensity only affects non-physical damage TTBOMK. But feel free to test your theory and report back.

Risus · Aug 08, 2008, 02:30 PM // 14:30

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Originally Posted by Yang Whirlwind

And you don't think bringing a ranger without UB and equipped with a mostly useless Elite to DoA combined with the fact that you have to get 5 rangers makes things a bit more difficult?
You will only have 4 UB's btw, if you still plan on bringing the standard 3 monks and the ranger.

Give the ranger LONG recharge skills to maximize usage of Oath Shot would work.

Rexion · Aug 08, 2008, 02:35 PM // 14:35

[Unyielding Aura]

what was a fun skill to use in PvE Pugs just to piss of the wammo, is now not fun to use in PvE.

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Unyielding Aura (PvE): While you maintain this enchantment, your Monk spells heal for +15...51% more Health. When this enchantment ends one random other party member is resurrected and teleported to your location.

Tom Swift · Aug 08, 2008, 02:38 PM // 14:38

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Originally Posted by R.Shayne

I am greedy little farmer, I even went after the dryder and bone pits. In the end my inventory was so full I was droping purples to make room. (Ecto, Sapphires, and White dye in one run). I like this change.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^
ROFLMAO

And don't forget, now that sliver does some damage again under sf again, the attack speed of the bad guys in hard mode means it is just as fast if not faster in hard mode than in normal so you get all those little extra goodies like gold weapons, rare mats and tomes.

Yes, I'm liking this update very much - may have to start paying more attention to the underworld again.

(I will say this though - I think it will do what ANet wanted and slow the influx of ectos. The farmer still makes a ton of money but not as much from ectos - they drop at same rate in hard as in normal I believe. And there is no way the sliver build can collect them as quickly as the fire/degen builds did. So i still get my cash but the ecto economy is not impacted as much - a benefit all around)

Hollow Gein · Aug 08, 2008, 02:41 PM // 14:41

This is a surprisingly good update, nice buffs as well as reworked skills. The EVSS 'lethality' bonus was an interesting touch. I laughed when "Snap. Headshot" appeared in the side chat log after taking out a few Charr. All in all, GJ Anet.

Numa Pompilius · Aug 08, 2008, 02:41 PM // 14:41

I see the boost of already very powerful PvE skills as ANet again trying to get people to group rather than H/H.

With skills as insanely powerful as Pain Inverter and Sniper Support you're seriously gimping yourself if you bring heroes.

DarkNecrid · Aug 08, 2008, 02:50 PM // 14:50

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Originally Posted by Esan

EVSS deals physical damage, and Intensity only affects non-physical damage TTBOMK. But feel free to test your theory and report back.

Nope, it affects all damage caused by spells.

EmptySkull · Aug 08, 2008, 02:59 PM // 14:59

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Originally Posted by Esan

EVSS deals physical damage, and Intensity only affects non-physical damage TTBOMK. But feel free to test your theory and report back.

hmm, I was interested if that indeed effected the damage output. And it does seem to with at least the regular damage. Goes from 22/24 damage/sec to 28 or from 90 to 112 on master of damage. So I assumed it would for the head shot damage.

LOL, I also noticed that a readout was posted in the chat when you get that bonus damage.
"Snap!Headshot!"

edit. ooo ninja'ed!!

Angel Killuminati · Aug 08, 2008, 03:01 PM // 15:01

lol -1139!

That kind of damage reminds me of Final Fantasy in the later stages.

Jetdoc · Aug 08, 2008, 03:13 PM // 15:13

Wow...I understand the love of buffs, but this is kinda over the top. The change that I'm most surprised about is that to "Save Yourselves!"...it now becomes a skill that is useable by any class (and not just warriors).

By the way, Lyssa's Aura just became incredible energy management for /Mesmer secondaries. Simply amazing.

Tyla · Aug 08, 2008, 03:13 PM // 15:13

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Originally Posted by Ultima pyromancer

I like the update.. But its gonna be a while before theres any really good builds for DoA

Physicals. (Only doable in Normal Mode from what I see though)
Cryway. (I'm not completely sure on this, but I think DVDF did a Cryway full run)
Tank 'N' Spank.

If you ask me, PuGs will go for Tank 'N' Spank.

@Jet - Yeah. To me I find that these buffs are awesome, but they really should be toned down to a reasonable level. I'm enjoying them, but it still doesn't sort out the fact Anet have gone out of their heads in terms of buffs.

Bug John · Aug 08, 2008, 03:17 PM // 15:17

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Originally Posted by King Symeon

Underworld changes

* Reapers now become invulnerable once all quests have been completed in the Underworld.
* Replaced Cursed Dream Riders with Banished Dream Riders.
* Shortened the distance Banished Dream Riders will follow a player.
* Banished Dream Riders now stand stationary and overlook a small complement of added Wailing Lords.
* Mindblade Spectres' base attack is now ranged.
* Increased the Health of Mindblade Spectres by 500.
* Reduced the run speed of Mindblade Spectres.

do mindflay specters still exist ?

Numa Pompilius · Aug 08, 2008, 03:18 PM // 15:18

They gave the players exactly what they wanted: insanely overpowered skills.

Which, not incidentally, encourage PUGging and penalizes using heroes & hench.

Spazzer · Aug 08, 2008, 03:20 PM // 15:20

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Originally Posted by Diddy bow

Scavenger's Focus: this skill is no longer a preparation; decreased Energy cost to 5; decreased activation time to 0; increased recharge time to 20 seconds. Functionality changed to: "(10 seconds.) You gain 3..12 Energy if you strike a foe who has condition."

Yea now my ranger can have loads of energy!!!

If you're relying on your points in Wilderness Survival to help you cope with your energy issues as a Ranger, might I suggest trying out Expertise?

The update to Signet of Midnight is the most telling. I think Izzy just goes into RA from time to time and bases his ideas of balance from that.

manitoba1073 · Aug 08, 2008, 03:25 PM // 15:25

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Originally Posted by Bug John

do mindflay specters still exist ?

Nope they doubled the number of regular spectres

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Originally Posted by N1ghtstalker

omg yes!
me and the alliance were talking about it yesterday and we feared about a nerf to [pain inverter] but it got buffed!
and i like the UW changes
now the permasin is screwed with the mindguys ranged attacks and SF didn't get raped to death so some farming builds still live
skill hunter of elona is changed?
what did get changed? one elite removed or something?

and about UB 'n stuff
i love to see the changes
raven has become more powerful and there's a recharge
now it's not constantly maintainable it's much better now
what can i say
anerf finally did something good

Funny SF UW looks even better to me and a few others BTW thats still the poison and burning build of mine.

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Originally Posted by R.Shayne

To the perma - sin farmers, go Hard mode with a sliver build and since they are range attack now they no longer scatter, the more you kill the better it gets. ten minutes on the chaos plains had 2 ecto, will do a full run later.

All the QQ's start your engine and yes I am laughing my butt off at you.

Don't ever get into a build war with farmers, we win.

QFT.

payne · Aug 08, 2008, 03:46 PM // 15:46

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Originally Posted by King Symeon

* Ursan Blessing: functionality changed to: "You lose all effects and take on the aspect of the bear (60 seconds). All your attributes are set to 0 and bear attacks replace your skills, and you have 100 armor and 750..800 Health."
* Ursan Strike: functionality changed to: "Deals 40..75 damage and 40..75 slashing damage."
* Ursan Rage: this skill is now touch range.

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oO:; spose this is a nerf aye?

by all effects does that include enchantments? or just conditional effects?

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oO lyssa oO